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Dumbledore Is Not !
by David Haber
Well... maybe not. At least, I don't think he is. Snape's betrayal and the of Dumbledore caught me completely by surprise. Dumbledore was , and on top of that, Snape had done it. And all of the clues point to two possibilities, that Dumbledore's not really , or at the very least, that Snape's not really a Eater, and he Dumbledore because Dumbledore ordered him to, as part of a grand plan.
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Heres an interesting theory that im just throwing out there, dont necessarily believe it but going along with the whole. Dumbledore not and Snape casting expilimarus - Could it be that Dumbledore is an Animagus and as he was falling to the bottom of the tower he transformed into the phoenix that we see and believe is fawks?
Posted by Stephen Dodd from Perth, WA on January 17, 2007 11:51 PM
I dont think so. Harry found dumbledore's body on the ground, and he saw the phoenix at the !
Posted by Ruud from Netherlands on January 18, 2007 07:00 AM
Liking your comment hamlet. I think there is almost definitely a horcrux in the room of requirement...
Posted by witherwings from bradford on January 18, 2007 08:47 AM
I just finally read this book and found Dumbledore's and Harry's rapid transition to a kind of almost happiness at Bill's upcoming marriage (last paragraph of the book) to be thoroughly unacceptable -- and therefore unbelievable. The moment Dumbledore went over the ramparts, I thought, OK, this is a plan to make Voldemort think Dumbledore's . I just find it unfathomable that Dumbledore would freeze Harry, rendering him useless and enabling Malfoy to disarm Dumbledore. Why would he protect Harry, who has fought Voldemort successfully on many occasions, against the likes of Malfoy unless he intended to let the whole plan play out as it did? No reason. Having figured out most of Malfoy's plan (as Dumbledore made clear he had while he was speaking with Malfoy in the tower) why would he let it continue merely to save Malfoy from Voldemort, as he said he did when speaking with Malfoy in the tower. (If the little brat is a Eater, I doubt he'd get a lot of sympathy even from Dumbledore; and by the way, Malfoy has never, in any book, demonstrated any particular talent as a wizard. I've always thought this was a weakness of Rowling's characterization of him. He's this huge thorn in Harry's side, but he never really does anything exceptional, and all of a sudden he's a Eater who is charged with, and capable of, coming up with a plan to Dumbledore? It doesn't wash). And finally, there is no way Dumbledore, with his vision, wisdom and experience, would misread Snape and fail to see such a thing coming. So, either Dumbledore's still alive, or he's , but by design. It definitely wasn't just some series of unfortunate events up there in the tower.
Posted by James Badham from Santa Barbara, CA on January 18, 2007 09:24 AM
Dumbledore is most certainly . Whether he returns in some sort of manifestation such as Prongs/James Potter did with Harry's Patronus remains to be seen and is anybody's guess. But if Dumbledore suddenly emerges alive and well at Hogwarts ala Gandalf in the forest then JK Rowling would lose a lot of credibility.
The Aberforth theory touches some intrigue due to the whole memory in the bottle thing but ultimately fails because Dumbledore not involve someone as seemingly dumb (illegal practice with goats?) as Aberforth to be involved in something as crucial as destroying a horcrux, not to mention having to for it. Think of Aberforth as a Mundungus type; simple minded, untrustworthy individual who is ultimately inconsequential to the core of the story. I, for one, would lose a lot of respect for Dumbledore and JK if it turns out he sacrificed his own brother so he could live. But that didn't happen so that point can be put to rest.
You must also keep in mind which character you are questioning to feign his own . Had this been Sirius, James Potter, Hagrid or anybody else besides Dumbledore in the series then there may be a point. The fact is that Dumbledore has proven his nobility and to put someone, anyone else in the line of danger or ing them would been seen to be completely out of his character.
And then there's the , which JK beautifully depicted. It was righteous and poignant and something fans remember for the rest of their lives. To simply jump out and say "Gotcha!" to her millions of readers would be insulting to them and, I would think, herself; she won't do that.
Posted by Mark from Detroit, MI on January 20, 2007 4:29 PM
Very interesting Hamlet. By george, I think he's got it.
Though I do have one concern. I know that Dumbledore did keep some things from Harry, but if Tonks WAS working for him, why would he not have told Harry? Especially since he was so clear that he could tell Ron and Hermione, but stressed that they should tell noone else. If Tonks was indeed in on the plan, then you would think that D would allow H to be able to talk to her about it too. Though maybe that was perhaps Tonks' role - if 'something' happened.
Posted by Bridge from Leeds on January 22, 2007 09:04 AM
Tonks is a metamorphmagus. Will it only be used to make fun, or is there something more?
Would it be absurd that, for example, Tonks at some times got to appear as Mc Gonagall and replace her? For instance, at the end of OotP, Mc Gonagall is attacked by four wizards and survives. Pomfrey says it is surprising that she survived, due to her old age.
Posted by herve from strasbourg on January 23, 2007 07:44 AM
McGonagal is just a tough old bird. (and I say that with the deepest respect) She was ready to take on Fudge and his crew when they tried to take Dumbledore in OotP. I don't think there are many wizards who would want to be on the wrong side of her.
Posted by Kevin from Wisconsin on January 24, 2007 10:59 AM
While on a long trip up to my mother's and back over the holidays, my children and I listened to HBP again (we can't help it, books, tapes and cds....we're quite addicted) and I began to think about a couple of things that I'd read here previously about Dumbldore not being and Snape being quite a bad guy.
Dumbledore is . If not just on the unimpeachable word of JK who has already stated so, then by the mountains of evidence proving that Dumbledore was neither afraid of , nor would he have tried to circumvent it when it was his time. Both of these points have been gone over by readers in previous comments more eloquently than I can put them.
Snape is on the side of good. She always casts him as villain and then shows that he really is not. We are told time and time again that Dumbledore was one of the greatest wizards of his age, so great, in fact, that he was the only one who Voldemort truly feared. Almost the entire wizarding community wanted him to take over as Minister of Magic because he was so incredibly wise. She has also stated that he trusted Snape implicitly; without exception, hesitation or reservation. She is sure to let us know several times that Snape had given Dumbledore an exceptional reason to have this level of trust in him. To think that it was as simple as, “Well, Albus, I feel really bad about Lily and James getting ed so, you know, here I am at your disposal.” is foolish and demeans Dumbledore. If JK suddenly changes tack and makes Snape a Judas, then she destroys all of the credibility she has so forcefully bestowed upon Dumbledore. In short, she turns him into a first-class idiot.
Posted by the headhunter from plymouth on January 24, 2007 11:28 AM
I think the reason Voldemort is afraid of Dumbledore is that Dumbledore is the one wizard who is not afraid to look straight in the eye of dark magic or a dark wizard. He is incorruptible. Voldemort knew he could never charm him the way he charmed other teachers and other wizards. Much of Voldemort's power is his ability to engender fear in his opponents and in his supporters. Fear is how commands loyalty. Dumbledore, on the other hand, receives loyalty and respect because he does not demand it. His power is drawn from love, not fear. We all know Voldemort cannot understand love, and fears what he cannot understand. Voldemort cannot possess Harry due to the agony of existing with Harry's love, which may turn out to be Harry's greatest weapon.
I think also that Dumbledore had some personal experience with Dark Magic, which was what he was reminded of while drinking the poison that protected the locket in the cave. The reason why Voldemort fears Dumbledore is that Dumbledore refused what Voldemort could not turn his back on, immortality and power through dark magic.
Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on January 25, 2007 06:30 AM
I just have to say that JK said that Dumbledore is truly . I believe her in the fact that he did at the tower. Also Snape, if on Dumbledore's side, had to complete the task of ing Dumbledore if Malfoy couldn't come through because of the unbeakable vow. At the same time, we have no clue what actually happened to Dumbledore's arm.
The connection I am trying to make is that Dumbledore d by the hand of snape. By actually ing him, Snape finished the task stated by the unbreakable vow. Snape is then off the hook. We know that certain things happen to people when they make a horcrux. So Dumbledore knew that he had to be ed and so he made a horcrux from his own soul, hence the reason his arm was the way it is. So in the 7th book, Dumbledore could come back using the horcrux.
Posted by Billy on January 26, 2007 5:28 PM
how does dumbledore unfreeze harry if he hasnt got a wand? well i think that in dumbledore and snapes "plan" they decided for snape to do a un verbal spell to make harry freeze and then again to unfreeze him so it is all a plan if HOPEFULLY dumbledore is alive
Posted by Natalie from bromsgrove on January 27, 2007 12:29 PM
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