by David Haber
These are some of the clues contained in the pages of Harry Pottter and the Half-Blood Prince which support the possibility that Dumbledore is not really , or at least Snape Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, and that everything that happened that night was planned well in advance by Dumbledore himself.
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Didnt snape invent sectumsempra? couldnt he have made a new spell that looks green but has the effects of making the victim appear ? like a combo of Draught of Living , and a curse?
Posted by Iamthegrim from Bloomington, MN on June 18, 2007 11:35 AM
Everything on here is fascinating and very believable. After re-reading HBP (because once is not enough) I started picking up on things like the possibility of Dumbledore being an Animagus.
But concerning the guessing that the Avada Kedavra wasn't actually performed due to the description on the after effect, in OoTP, we see a very similar depiction from Harry's POV of Sirius' , just like Dumbledore in HBP.
Posted by Jacqui from Newport News, Va on June 18, 2007 12:51 PM
Jacqui - That's because Sirius was hit by a stunning spell, and fell through the " Veil". Albus was apparently not hit with a stunner because stunners are red and the spell from Severus' wand was green.
I've mentioned this before, but it was pages and months back; I am convinced that the "strong burst of green light" seen before the Roberts were seen floating in the air indicates that Levicorpus, a nonverbal spell invented by Severus, is green. While I do think Albus is , there is always the possibility that this spell was used instead of Avada Kedavra. The fact that Jo has mentioned that Levi- and Libracorpus both flash light, but avoids telling us the color of that light, seems to me to indicate that she doesn't want us to figure the color out so easily.
Posted by Monkeeshrines from orlando fl on June 19, 2007 08:55 AM
I'm at a loss with the of dumbledore and I've got another point to make about his . Dumbledore is described to have his eyes 'closed' and the angle of his body suggests he was 'sleeping'. Could this support the theory that Snape used a non verbal spell to merge with his verbal spell?
Posted by Dargor on June 20, 2007 12:00 PM
Well when harry attacked bellatrix with 'crucio', she said that 'an unforgivable curse cannot be used with just anger, that u have to enjoy it'.
It was described that snape 'had hatred traced on his face' (or something like that), maybe therefore dumbledore was seriously injured and was healed by fawkes...
Posted by shaheer from cnada kington on June 26, 2007 10:20 AM
I would just like to say that there is no way Dumbledore could have lived. It becomes very apparent that Draco's mission is to Dumbledore. If you go back to Chpt.2, Spinners End, Narcissa and Snape make the unbreakable vow.
"And, should it prove necesarry... if it seems Draco fail..." (It did indeed seem Draco failed) (Snapes hand twitched within hers, but he did not draw away), "Will you carry out the deed that the Dark Lord has ordered Draco to perform?"
Snape agreed to these things. If he did not Dumbledore, Snape would have d. So, Dumbledore is definatly . Also, if Dumbledore lived, how did Harry become unfrozen? Dumbledore's wand was lost due to Malfoy. In reference to Dumbledore being thrown back, could it be due to so many enchantments set by him undoing at once, and the vast magical energy from this undoing blast him back?
Posted by Jake Christensen from Utah, USA on June 26, 2007 8:51 PM
This article states that maybe Snape used a nonverbal spell while saying Avada Kedavra to make it seem like he ed dumbledore... but if Snape really didnt Dumbledore, then Snape himself would be right now. He made an unbreakable vow to carry out Malfoys mission if Malfoy didnt... and Malfoys mission was to dumbledore... so if Snape swore to carry out Malfoys mission then he HAD to have ed Dumbledore or he would be ... and the fact that Snape is alive means Dumbledore really was ed by him.
Posted by Omar Hakim from Falls Church, VA on June 27, 2007 03:56 AM
All of your clues make sense, but there's one little (well, actually pretty big) thing you forgot:
Why in the world would Dumbledore want to appear ? At the very least this would give Voldemort more confidence and power and that's the last thing Harry needs right now. I guess you may think "Voldemort let his guard down", but Voldemort is one of the most powerful wizards in the world, and, as you stated in the Snape Clues, he is a master at Legimency. He won't be fooled by something like this, even if it was conjured by Dumbledore.
Posted by Lauren from New City, NY on June 27, 2007 10:21 AM
ive been thinking about this to the verge of insanity, there must be a loop hole to the unbreakable vow? there couldnt be. all my theories cross out the other, its frustrating.
i agree with the last few comments. there is no way snape could have lived. unless, somehow, that wasnt snape? polyjuice potion? for all we know, that could be someone else, but i have nothing to back it up with.
I think Dumbledore is , but i don't think he's gone. i think it was all planned out between the two of them. snape tipped him off, dumbledore knew what was going to happen, he just didn't know where or when, it was all a big show. thats the reson harry knows everything dumbledore knows and thats the reason he was frozen, to keep out of harm to continue the quest. dumbledore was ing to sacrifice himself for snape, who was too valuable an allie to lose.
has dumbledore planted a horcrux? is he evil enough to do so? i feel he has a mysterious past, he's reassured harry numerous times of the mistakes he has made..
im not sure, but im fretting immensely. i see no way out of it im afraid. unless he comes back a ghost?
Posted by LinziJane from NSW, Australia on June 29, 2007 04:58 AM
I believe Dumbledore has a horcrux. This theory is supported by the fact that Dumbledore is like 150 years old. Unless wizards have extended lives (which i highly doubt) then he would need some magical way to stay alive for so long. Its either the Elixir of Life, which is impossible because the Philospher's Stone was destroyed, or a horcrux. And Dumbledore couldnt have fought against evil for so long and not have ed someone! So I think Dumbledore has a horcrux, which i believe is Fawkes (or a sock. Read my other article in the Dumbledore is not comments, page 40.)
Posted by Roy from Berwick, PA on June 30, 2007 07:07 AM
I think most fans assume it has been established that Wizards do generally have a longer life-span than Muggles.
Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on June 30, 2007 2:16 PM
I find it unlikely that Dumbledore made a Horcrux. It's too evil for him. The point is that in my opinion Dumbledore has truly beat Voldemort at Vodlemort's own game of defying .
Voldemort is afraid to . Even with his horcruxs, once they are destroyed Voldemort becomes mortal like the rest of us---he s.
However, Dumbledore is not afraid of because he has "beat" . He can and then be reborn---like a phoenix. Dumbledore is not fawkes, but he is a powerful wizard that has figured out how to (or even appear to to ) and be reborn. As to how he has done this---I don't know. Perhaps he is truly reborn from his ashes (like Fawkes), or perhaps he needed the help of our favorite potions master...Snape. Maybe Snape made the potion that Dumbledore drank in the cave---it put him into a deep sleep (maybe even pulseless), but then with the help of Hagrid, Aberforth, or even Snape, Albus was able to come back to life. Maybe he just needed to "sleep" it off.
Here's a reality check--in our muggle world those having cardiac surgery can be sustained pulseless for a while using various techniques (i'll avoid all the medical jargon) without serious injury to the brain and other vital organs. This is the magical world----why couldn't there be a spell to keep dumbledore pulseless for a couple of hours or days without any serious injury as well? Could this be what Snape meant in SS (Book 1) when he said that he could "stopper "?
In any case, sorry Voldemort---you lose.
Posted by Heather from NJ on July 2, 2007 6:34 PM
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