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by David Haber
These are some of the clues contained in the pages of Harry Pottter and the Half-Blood Prince which support the possibility that Dumbledore is not really , or at least Snape Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, and that everything that happened that night was planned well in advance by Dumbledore himself.
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I'm still deciding if Dumbledore is or not, but I'm quite forced to admit he is . There are many clues that give us faith, like the way Dumbledore fell from the tower: I think that such a character deserved a most impressive way to than simply dropping to the floor (flewing off the tower and "hanged in the air" for a second just bellow the shining skull). Even more, Dumbledore said once that no magic or spell can return someone from . Rowling herself said that Dumbledore is definitely should be enough.
I think that Harry would not be alone, I mean that R.A.B. although is , help him someway. Aberforth, Ron and Hermione too, but the most valuable help come from Snape and from Dumbledore. Yes! Everybody knows Snape hates Harry, but he knows Harry is the only who can stop Voldemort (remember Snape "teaching" Harry in the last part, when he was escaping?). And everybody knows that Dumbledore is already in his portrait, so doubtlessly he continue (in some way) his relation with Harry.
But, ok, I have problems with two pieces of evidence: the potion called "Draught of Living " and the "non-verbal spells", both from HBP. Since Rowling, in her books, often describes abilities or knowledge of the main characters that are going to be usefull or determinant to solve the problems or complicated situations by the ending, those pieces of evidence gain relevance in the seventh book.
And, of course, Potter has Lily eyes! We read it so many times, it's a very important clue because represents his mother's sacrifice, the power of love that Harry has but Voldemort don't. And that's why Harry survive, not only for that prophecy (Voldemort , such evilness has to !). But even more, Harry has suffered so much until now: his family ed, an awfull childhood with his relatives, the scar that hurts, he saved his life lots of time, almost no one believed him several times (chamber of secrets, the parseltongue, the return of Voldemort, his participation in the Triwizards, etc.), almost ed by a Basilisk, by Aragog or even by Voldemort four times! Definitely, he has suffered enough, and if Rowling decides to him, well, she is so awfully sick!
Posted by Patricio from Buenos Aires on May 11, 2007 12:36 PM
Although i don't like the idea of it being true, I think that Dumbledore is . yes, Harry still need his help in finding the rest of the horcruxes. this is where dumbledores portrait comes into play. I think that Harry have access to the portrait and dumbledores pensive so that he be able to do what has to be done.
I think that Snape is a good guy, i believe that he told dumbledore about the unbreakable vow and since dumbledore was already ing he made snape him. i don't think he was really ed by the Avada Kedavra, because dumbledore wouldn't want snape to perform an unforgivable curse, i think that snape made another curse to do the job. I have a feeling that in the end Harry realize that snape is really a good guy when he lays his life down for Harry.
Posted by Taryn from Easton, Pennsylvania on May 11, 2007 10:15 PM
So if Dumbledore is truly , what's the point of hiring Slughorn, someone who spectacularly faked his own and had his first potions lesson on how to brew draught of living ?
Posted by Deebs from Sedona, AZ on May 14, 2007 5:33 PM
I think I know how Dumbledore faked his . Page 319 of HBP Slughorn tells Snape...
"Well then it's natural ability!" shouted Slughorn. "You should have seen what he gave me, first lesson, Draught of Living -- never had a student produce finer on a first attempt, I don't think even you Severus--"
Draught of Living . I wonder what that does. Remember Harry was using Snapes old textbook to make it. Now, regarding JKR's comments. The little boy asked her if we would see Dumbledore in action again and she said she couldn't answer because the answer was in book 7 but later she said that "Dumbledore is definitely ." So, the answer is this; All the potion that Dumbledore drank in the cave was Draught of Living . Dumbledore really did but it's a "temporary" . So, yes he is definitely but we WILL see him in action again in book seven. More evidence is on page 590 when he tells Malfoy...
"That's right," said Malfoy. "But she said you were just going for a drink, you'd be back..."
"Well, I certainly did have a drink... and I came back... after a fashion" mumbled Dumbledore.
Posted by Rick Medlin from Pataskala Ohio on May 15, 2007 9:08 PM
i think Dumbledore is . the reason he hired Slughorn is for the memory of when Tom asked about horcruxes. if he wasn't a teacher then harry wouldn't have been able to get that memory from him.
Posted by Taryn from Easton, Pennsylvania on May 15, 2007 9:34 PM
Patricio from Buenos Aires - The concept that there are things worse than is quite pounded into our heads in the fifth and sixth books, and recur in the seventh. Perhaps having Harry suffer all those things you enumerated for us just to him may be "sick", but perhaps making him continue to live may be even sicker. For him to go through all that, may seem a welcome reprieve, "rather like going to bed at the end of a very long day". Imagine, after having gone through all that, only to have to carry that weight for the rest of your life. It might be kinder to let him .
Posted by Monkeeshrines from Orlando Fl on May 16, 2007 4:53 PM
From Wikipedia: " is the permanent end of the life of a biological organism."
So JK could mean living , seems this would fit her comment , no lies, but an obvious chance for return.
The cave chapter somehow seems a set up, Dumbledore’s actions from the goblet on were very like the desperate attempts to ward off sleep. for example, the , seems odd no viewing of body at least not mentioned. especialy someone so important.
Example where Dumbledore's hand appears ok:
1. And with the sudden agility of a much younger man, Dumbledore slid from the boulder, landed in the sea, and began to swim, with a perfect breaststroke,
2. Dumbledore approached the wall of the cave and caressed it with his blackened hand
3. said Dumbledore, shaking back the sleeve of his robes and exposing the forearm of his injured hand.
4. 'Oho,' said Dumbledore happily, seconds later. His hand had closed in midair upon something Harry could not see. Dumbledore moved closer to the water; Harry watched nervously as the tips of Dumbledore's buckled shoes found the utmost edge of the rock rim. Keeping his hand clenched in midair, Dumbledore raised his wand with the other and TAPPED HIS FIST WITH THE POINT.
5. Dumbledore pushed back the sleeve of his robe over his blackened hand, and stretched out the tips of his burned fingers toward the surface of the potion
6. Almost absent-mindedly, Dumbledore raised his wand again, twirled it once in midair, and then caught the crystal goblet that he had conjured out of nowhere.
7. His grip on the goblet was slackening; the potion was about to spill from it. Harry reached forward and grasped the crystal cup, holding it steady, pos blackened hand.
IS THIS DUMBLEDORE OR HAS THE HAND HEALED?
8. 'How did you know that was there?' Harry asked in astonishment. Still think dumbledore's in with a genuine chance.
Posted by gordon from uk on May 17, 2007 03:13 AM
I, myself, think that Dumbledore is . Malfoy's Task in HBP, though I don't think that it says it specifically, is to Dumbledore. Snape made an Unbreakable Vow, in Chapter Two, with Narcissa to A) Watch over Draco while he attempts to fulfill Voldemort's assigned task, B) Protect Draco from harm at the best of his ability, and C) Perform the task if Draco can either cannot, or fails to. He agrees to all of the terms, and Draco does not him. So, in turn, Snape must, or he s. And I don't think that Snape would be ing to give his life for Dumbledore, seeing as he's a filthy git. So, even if he was a spy for Dumbledore, he still would have to him if he, in turn, did not want to .
Posted by Shannon from San Fran, California on May 17, 2007 2:13 PM
Since Dumbledore's a headmaster (and so his portrait is on the wall), maybe J.K.'s reference to "Dumbledore giving her a bit of trouble" is just about advice he gives to Harry, right?
Posted by Derzu from Hartford,Connecticut on May 22, 2007 4:04 PM
Wow. Well, before I read this, I was avid in the fact that Dumbledore was . But, after reading this, I'm beginning to second guess myself.
After reading that Dumbledore was "" I sat in my car and cried. You've given me hope again. Thank you.;)
Posted by Melissa from Georgia, U.S.A. on May 23, 2007 8:12 PM
Neither Trelawny or Dobby are at Dumbledore's . Did the eaters break into the castle to take Trelawny? Is Dobby still following Malfoy when he leaves with Snape?
Posted by Joe from England on May 24, 2007 5:38 PM
Interesting new bit of information, I am sure JK does it just to give us headaches!
I spent an age trying to 'prove' that Dumbledore was not , then I accepted that he was in fact , but with a good reason behind it. Now?
Hmmm, maybe the edited text is not about Dumbledore faking a , maybe it is about another character presumed . I can only think of Regulus Black who is assumed , but then did JK confirm he is most definitely ?
Joe from England:
I can't find anything that says Trelawney or Dobby were not in attendance at the . Can you point me in the right direction please?
Posted by Orlando from England on May 28, 2007 1:22 PM
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