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Dumbledore Clues

by David Haber

These are some of the clues contained in the pages of Harry Pottter and the Half-Blood Prince which support the possibility that Dumbledore is not really , or at least Snape Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, and that everything that happened that night was planned well in advance by Dumbledore himself.

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As you all know full well by now, I DO think that Dumbledore is an Animagus phoenix.
The point you make about the tortoise-- no human has survived for 200 years; several generations of humans would have to keep their eyes on one tortoise to be sure that it lives that long, so how can we be sure that a tortoise has actually survived for 200 years? So of COURSE an Animagus isn't going to last that long if no one can prove that the actual ANIMAL can last that long!
I think it was Elizabeth from Australia that brought up this quote from Sirius, that somewhat proves that Animaguses adopt properties from the animals they transform into:
"I slipped between the dementors as a dog, dog emotions are less complex than human emotions..."
It doesn't say much except that when Sirius was a dog he had (for lack of a better word) dog-like properties, so I think that Dumbledore would have phoenix-like properties.

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on April 6, 2007 3:35 PM

On the point that the effect of 'Avada Kedavera' is different to usual when Dumbledore is ed. I agree that this is true, but i do not think that the actual spell used is 'Expelliarmus'. Instead i believe that the spell Snape used is, in fact, his very own non-verbal creation, 'Levicorpus', which Harry finds in his borrowed potions text book and accidentally uses against Ron in 'Silver and Opals' on page 224-225. The same flash of light occurs and Ron is lifted into the air, i don't think Harry yet has the ability to perform this non-verbal curse correctly and so Ron is not knocked flying backwards!

Posted by Mark Perkins from Hull, England on April 7, 2007 07:55 AM

I have my own theory that Dumbledore is an animagus who can turn into a pheonix. He has displayed fire powers many times. He may have turned into a phoenix while falling down from the tower and left a substitute body for Harry and Hagrid to find. Even though J.K. Rowling said Dumbledore was this could be explained by having Dumbledore stuck in his phoenix form. Thus it is not Fawkes who laments but Dumbledore himself

Posted by Shawn Harrison from Israel on April 12, 2007 10:33 AM

i have a theory that maybe snape created another spell, since he is the half blood prince, that would make it look like he's . I think he said avada kedavra but really conjured an other one.

Also i think that dumbledore is an animagus that can turn into a phoenix.

Posted by Melissa on April 12, 2007 10:35 PM

Mark: I think you are right about the Levicorpus. Strangely, Jo didn't tell the color of that spell, when usually they are told to be red, or white, or silver. If you read carefully, you'll see in OotP that the curses (Accio) that Bellatrix uses in the Ministry are also green, but Jo doesn't mention it directly, only by saying "another green light curse".

Posted by herve on April 12, 2007 11:54 PM

Pictures can talk, right? So, couldn't someone just ASK Dumbledore's picture if he was or not? If you could do that, would the picture even know?

Posted by Nina from ATL, Georgia on April 15, 2007 4:42 PM

On page 2 someone wrote:

JK said that Dumbledore not pull a Gandalf (i.e. he not return from the ). The operative phrase there is "from the ".

For Dumbledore to pull a Gandalf, he would have to be . Some of the evidence points to him not (therefore he wouldn't be able to pull a Gandalf).

I can understand that people come up with this theory and many others as well, but let's be honest now and face the truth, OK?

And there are some good reasons, why Dumbledore is really :

First of all, it would simply be cheating. Bringing him back after an Avadra Kedavra, a fall from the highest tower of Hogwarts, the sorrowful song of Fawkes (the Phoenix) and a real including a white marble sarcophagus - that would be such a cheat! We've had this with Obi Wan Kenobi as well, remember? Oh, and let's nor forget Aslan. Aslan also pulled a Gandalf!

Secondly, if Dumbledore came back and told Harry about his faked and the help of Snape in this little play, Harry would immediately change his opinion about Snape. And I just can't believe that this happen so easy. I am a Snape fan and I'm absolutely sure that he turn out to be a good guy in the end, but this unlikely happen before the very end of the book.

ly Hallows be the last Harry Potter book and this means that the climax of the book be a battle between Harry and Voldemort. In other chapters before this battle, Harry still have some company by Hermione and Ron, by some Order members and maybe even Snape. But I think that the last battle be Harry vs. Voldemort. He has to do this alone! There be no help for Harry! And Dumbledore would, of course, be a big help for Harry, being the greatest wizard of all times and the only wizard Voldemort ever was afraid of. Therefore, he not come back to help Harry!

And last but not least, Dumbledore knew that he was from the very beginning of HBP. He knew it already when he visited the Dursleys. Dumbledore made sure that Harry could come again the next year, because Dumbledore would not be around to help him anymore.

He knows, that this be his last year. Therefore, Dumbledore does the last things he can do for Harry. He talks to the Dursleys and he gives Harry all information that he has about the horcruxes. He even helps him by drinking the poison - Of course he knows that it's ly.

And knowing that things soon change at Hogwarts, knowing that he is going to anyway, knowing that Snape have to him (Of course Snape told him about the unbreakable vow) and also knowing that Snape cannot be a Hogwarts teacher anymore after an Avadra Kedavra, Dumbledore makes Snape the biggest present - let's call it a parting gift - the defense against the dark arts position!

Posted by Marc from Cologne, Germany on April 15, 2007 8:00 PM

What about in Order of the Pheonix when professor McGonagall gets hit by the three stunning spells when the ministry is trying to get Hagrid? Couldn't that be the spell? It says that she was lifted off her feet and fell limp.

Posted by jake from chesterfield, MO on April 16, 2007 1:07 PM

jake from chesterfield--
McGonagall is seventy. Not exactly young, even for a witch. She took four Stunners straight to the chest, so I seriously doubt if the same effect is going to be inflicted upon Dumbledore if one Stunner hit him.
Besides, when Harry Stuns Krum in GoF (im re-re-reading it) during the third task, Krum freezes, and then falls forward. I think that would be more of the effect upon Dumbledore than McGonagall's reaction.

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on April 16, 2007 1:38 PM

i really agree with you that dumbledpre is not , he can't be and the point about the Avada Kedavra not being the ing spell is a very smart observation.

Mark from Cologne:
I think that it is right for snape to turn good at the end thats why i think dumbledore pull a Gandalf and stay hidden (helping harry along his way) and reveal himself and his plans at the end.

Posted by Alberto from Athens on April 17, 2007 08:06 AM

A lot of discussion has been done regarding the color of the spell used by Severus on Albus. There must be a specific reason Jo has given colors of some spells and not given colors of others, even when she says there is light. Stupify, Expeliarmus, and most of the other spells we have seen have this sort of reaction are red. Avada Kedavera is green. Only one spell that might possibly have the lifting effect has been associated, rather indirectly at that, with the color green: Levicorpus. Harry sees a "burst of strong green light" at the Quidditch World Cup just prior to the Roberts' being floated above the campsite. And this spell is also both distinctly non-verbal and invented by Severus who most, if not all, of us agree has the strength of mind to say one spell and perform another non-verbally. As to why Albus wasn't hoisted upside-down by the ankles, suppose that Severus cast both Levi- and Libracorpus in quick succession (while saying "Avada Kedavera", of course). Perhaps it happened so quickly that it appeared that only one flash of green light occurred and there wasn't time for Albus to be upturned. I admittedly have no confirmation on the color of Libracorpus; I merely assume it is the same as Levicorpus.

Posted by Monkeeshrines from Orlando FL on April 17, 2007 11:33 AM

I tottaly see your point. I was thinking though that even though Dumbledore is very powerful, he is still old and would take a bigger effect if he WANTED it to happen, as the article states.

Posted by Jake from chesterfield, MO on April 17, 2007 11:50 AM

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