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Dumbledore Clues

by David Haber

These are some of the clues contained in the pages of Harry Pottter and the Half-Blood Prince which support the possibility that Dumbledore is not really , or at least Snape Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, and that everything that happened that night was planned well in advance by Dumbledore himself.

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Two small comments: horcruxes and Barty Crouch Jr. Rowling has the habit of threading whatever new toy be used in a book through the thing well in advance of the final pages. This is the first time we've heard about horcruxes and we are also told that they can be animals--the snake for Voldemort, for instance, is probably one Dumbledore says. This makes the large part Fawkes plays in the after- sequences very interesting--also, Dumbledore, as pointed out, is very fire-savvy. Maybe because part of him resides in the phoenix, which, incidentally can never ? Wouldn't he always be at least somewhat alive as long as Fawkes is?
Then there's the Barty Crouch Jr. escape from Azkaban. His mother took polyjuice potion to look like him--it's extremely unlikely but the same could've been done to replace the "" body of Dumbledore. I don't really think it but it's a theory not yet mentioned. Of the horcrux and phoenix tack, though....seems to fit all the date nicely.

Posted by Marcia from Seattle, WA on September 10, 2006 3:45 PM

Thanks for the brilliant layout of information about Dumbledore. I believe that Dumbledore is either not or asked Snape to him. Just want to add a quick comment about Snape. I think Dumbledore's confidence in Snape's loyality is likely becuase Snape has made a unbreakable vow with Dumbledore. So, if Snape's still alive then either Dumbledore hasn't been betrayed by him or Dumbledore asked Snape to him.

Posted by J Johnstone from orlando, fl on September 11, 2006 1:23 PM

When I finished reading book 6 I was in shock. However, after reading it the second time, I paid more attention to detail. I started showing my husband the very clues to which are being discussed on this website. He thought I was reading to much into the book. Then one day he came home from work and told me he had overheard about this site. Now he pays attention to me when I mention clues about the book. I thought I was the only one to realize what the initials RAB could mean. I am glad to see others think it could be Regalus. And also, the locket at Sirius's house could actually be the horcrux that Harry and Dumbledore thought they had. I too find it funny in the book that fawkes is nowhere to be found until snape had ed dumbledore, yet was always there before to protect him or harry. thank you for this site it is good to know that if dumbledore really is i was not the only one who read to much into the book. however i do not believe that i have. i'll just have to wait and see in book 7. by the way does anyone know when that might be? i heard it was going to be july the seventh 2007. is this true?

Posted by Tonya from Cordele, GA on September 13, 2006 10:22 PM

is it possible that snape was thinking a different spell in his mind, but said the ing curse outloud to fool the eaters amd draco? also to lift the unbreakible vow?if he can make up spells he can fake them

Posted by soy from texas on September 14, 2006 5:25 PM

Just an idea...

JK said that Dumbledore not pull a Gandalf (i.e. he not return from the ). The operative phrase there is "from the ".

For Dumbledore to pull a Gandalf, he would have to be . Some of the evidence points to him not (therefore he wouldn't be able to pull a Gandalf).

Posted by Manjinder Samra from Toronto, ON on September 15, 2006 1:03 PM

Some really nice theories here, thank you for posting them. After reading all of this and the interview from JK herself I have one of my own, she mentions Dumbledore s but never Albus Dumbledore, what if it was actually his brother Aberforth Dumbledore. Apparently he also has a long beard and wears glasses and must be of a similar age; it fits in with the fact that Dumbledore was acting different towards the end of HBP. Either way thanks again for the theories!

Posted by Steven from London on September 15, 2006 2:56 PM

I have one question...

How could it be that if all the other times the disarming charm was cast it sent scarlet light and not green light?

Posted by Gina from Longmont,CO on September 16, 2006 10:37 AM

In number 3 fawkes might not have been able yo get there in time and in number 4 it could have been the angle of the curse. Ever think of that hu. It does not tell us where the curse struck in other cases.

Posted by inferno from Rockhampton on September 17, 2006 11:04 PM

great job on all the clues! your mind's fantastic and you're really patient, sifting through all the pages and clues like that. I really hope dumbledore hasn't d. thank you for giving me hope (:

Posted by natalie from america on September 21, 2006 02:36 AM

In half blood prince - we are known that snape(half blood prince) can create spells. why is these thing streesed?
because with this we can understand that snape can create spells and that he only created a spell which show that dumbledore is for some time. we read that snape had cursed the ing curse but we know taht to a person with this curse needs intention which snape does not have. And also we are told about non-verbal spells this year(6). why? snape could have created a spell that is pronounced non-verbally which caused us to think dumbledore .

Posted by satya pramodh from Hyderabad,Andhra Pradesh,India on September 26, 2006 03:30 AM

I love the theories! I've been reading different ones for a few hours now and I have read the books many times each and I've even read them in Spanish (you do what you can to learn languages! lol) Anyway, the Spanish version in the same as the British version in terms of the discussion between Dumbledore and Malfoy so I think that it's either a misprint with the American version or that they forgot to delete that bit. This was the one very interesting point because most of the others can be shot down quite easily in the same manner for example: Fawkes was intercepted by Malfoy on his way to the tower (Malfoy says something like I would have gotten here sooner but the bird got in my way, at least that's what's in the Spanish version which is the one I read most recently!)
Furthermore, the question that adresses Snape's intent on ing Dumbledore can not be said so quickly! indeed, are we sure Snape was really on Dumbledore's side? I know that Dumbledore trust him but it's human to make mistakes of this kind. It's not just because Dumbledore was a great wizzard that he can't make mistakes (as he admits in the fifth book!)
Next, the Fenix's curing tears. I admit I thought about this but in the fourth book, when Harry gives details of how he saw his parents come out of Voldemort's wand Sirius said something like: they came back? and Dumbledore replied that they were only echoes, that there was no cure to the Avada Kedavra curse...
Finally, everything to do with the body... This is the first time that we actually 'witness' a wizzard's and therefore know nothing of the customs but even our human s do not always openly show the body... Furthermore, it could be a custom to burn the bos, we can't know otherwise and it could be that the fenix is a reference to his patronus which is evedently a fenix and which generally is a thing (appearently an animal) that identifies to the person or that the person identifies to (Harry's patronus is a memory of his father...)
Anyway, I agree it's awful but I do think Dumbledore is and no longer be back to help Harry (at least directly!) Sorry!

Posted by Laure from France on September 26, 2006 3:07 PM

Well,after viewing this site,i do think that dumbledore is not .But then when i read the book once more i realized that dumbledore might be after all.Read the following lines(uk version-pg 601):

"And Harry saw very clearly as he sat there under the hot sun how people who cared about him had stood in front of him one by one, his mother, his father, his godfather, and finally dumbledore, all determined to protect him; but now that was over. He could not let anybody else stand between him and voldemort; he must abandon for ever the illusion he ought to have lost at age of one; that the shelter of a parent's arm meant that nothing could hurt him. There was no waking from his nightmare, no comforting whisper in the dark that he was safe really, that it was all in his imagination; the last and the greatest of his protectors had d and he was more alone than he had ever been before."

The line that says "He could not let anybody else stand between him and voldemort." This line suggests that dumbledore is actually . And that harry have to fight alone. This line suggests that J.K. Rowling has actually ed Dumbledore making Harry all alone and all responsible for his actions.
Well i think that Dumbledore is really . Sorry.

Posted by pankhuri from new delhi on September 27, 2006 10:05 AM

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