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Dumbledore Clues

by David Haber

These are some of the clues contained in the pages of Harry Pottter and the Half-Blood Prince which support the possibility that Dumbledore is not really , or at least Snape Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, and that everything that happened that night was planned well in advance by Dumbledore himself.

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I personally do NOT think that the scar play to much effect: it was mentioned only in Sorcerer's Stone in the very beginning and hasn't been talked about since. However, he did say that his scar was very useful, so you really never know.
You bring up some excellent quotes of Dumbledore's. The one I most find interesting is the last one. It can't have been just random workings of Fudge's brain: he isn't that bright.

Posted by Ashley from Missouri on February 26, 2007 2:03 PM

Ok, after spending much time reading everyone's theories, I surprised no one mentioned Dumbledore's memory:

"For a second, Harry was on the verge of shouting a pointless warning: He was sure Voldermort's hand had twitched toward his pocket and his wand; but then the moment has passed, Valdermort had turned away, the door was closing, and he was gone."

Ok the first time I read it I didn't see it, but after my four read through it hit me! I bet the memory was altered. We spend the whole book following Harry in persuit of the real memory between Riddle and Slughorn and Dumbledore states "as you can tell, this memory has been poorly altered." Did something else happen here and is that why Dumbledore is so upset when he is drink the potion. Is he regretting his decision to show Harry the altered memory?

I beleive there is more to that meeting.

Posted by Danielle from Haverhill, MA on February 27, 2007 11:46 AM

ok ive read a fair few of the comments here, and there is one theory that is touched upon but never actually mentioned

it has been stated and i agree with the dumbledore knew too much about that cave and her is my reasoning for it

50 years ago (well 56 now) he defeated a dark wizard, i think its fair to say he ed him/her. i believe with that ing he made ahorcrux and the horcrux he made was a LOCKET. Afterwards he put the locket in the cave to protect it, because he knew that he was going to '' soon he went to check on it and/or retrieve it so its close by when he 's'

Posted by Martin from MK, England on February 27, 2007 5:08 PM

Herve, thanks for clarifying about the scar. I still do think that the scar comment prove to be useful. I think you have a great point about dumbledore's "useless" comments. They may have some meaning...must keep digging.

Danielle, thanks for pointing out Dumbledore's memory. It definately warrents a re-read.

Posted by Heather from NJ on February 27, 2007 6:33 PM

another possiblity is that even though dumbledore is , he has planned for harry, say perhaps he has left a in which he gives his pensieve to harry for future refernces, so that harry has an almost alive dumbledore for him.

Posted by Samdrisht Singh on February 27, 2007 11:30 PM

Danielle from Haverhill,
Very good thought about Dumbledore's memory. That would explain why Dumbledore retrieved that memory from a phial instead of inside his head. So now I ask why would Dumbledore edit that memory? Obvioulsy he wants to hide something from Harry. Is there a connection between this and Dumbledore's remark to Voldemort, "We both know that there are other ways of destroying a man"?

Posted by mikey from New Jersey on February 28, 2007 7:17 PM

hmm, am wondering what would be the purpose of Dumbledore faking his own ? anyone can give opinions on that? I mean, from what i've read, it seems convincing that he's not and has faked his own with the help of Snape, but why is he doing this? What's the purpose?

Posted by junie from singapore on March 1, 2007 07:57 AM

Junie: Dumbledore knows Harry has it in him to defeat Voldemort. But Harry needs the confidence to do it. With Dumbledore around, Harry always feel that he can fall-back on Dumbledore's help. With Dumbledore gone, Harry has to finally stand on his own two feet and face Voldemort on his own. In addition, if Voldemort thinks Dumbledore is gone, as arrogant as we know he is, this lull him into a false sense of security, giving Harry another edge on Voldemort that help Harry defeat him.

Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on March 1, 2007 09:28 AM

Dave: I totally agree with you.

It looks like Dumbledore did that all way long: he rescued Harry from under the trap in SS, he sent Fawkes and the sword in CoS, he gave Harry the clue to be saved from the dementor, using the time-turner, in PoA, he probably sent the car to rescue Harry and Ron in CoS (don't forget he said just before to Lucius Malfoy that people who need help would always find it at Hogwarts). He appeared in the ministry when it became too difficult for Harry (OotP).

In each of those situations, he let Harry go as far as he could, acting only when it became too difficult. What a nice teacher: gives self-confidence and helps progressing.

Harry could get used to it and believe he is always backed up by Dumbledore. Now, he knows he has to find inside himself the ss and the to vanquish Voldemort, even if I think that he - at the end - receive some decisive help from Dumbledore.

Posted by herve from strasbourg on March 1, 2007 10:13 AM

I think that by Dumbledore faking his own , Voldemort has a false sense of security. He thinks that Snape is on his side and that Dumbledore is . Can't wait to see the look on his horrid face when Snape turns on him at the last minute to help Harry, and Dumbledore shows up smiling.

Posted by Heather from NJ on March 1, 2007 7:53 PM

I think I must disagree with most of the people commenting on this thread.
Dumbledore is . He did not plan to . He was getting older and more frail, fighting against strong evil magic which sapped more of his strength each time. Harry needs to learn to prevail against Voldemort, and I hope he . Each time Harry has stood up to Voldemort, whether he was recognized as such or not, Harry has demonstrated courage, clear thinking and strength beyond what anyone expected of him. Even when he finally faced a full strength Voldemort in the graveyard, Harry resisted the Imperius Curse, and Harry forced the golden beads back to Voldemort's wand during the Priori Incantatum. Harry is a force to be reckoned with. He doesn't have the knowledge of Voldemort but one of his strengths is to unite those who are good and to lead them in the battle against evil. He can use them and their knowledge to his advantage. Harry has to face Voldemort alone. He couldn't do that with Dumbledore alive and well and ing to step in at any time.
On top of that, Harry not recognize an ally in Snape, his emotions not let him. The emotions he gets from his dad. Maybe he can use "his mother's eyes" to get past that, or he be hampered by his emotions in the end.

Posted by Patty from Quincy,Massachusetts on March 2, 2007 09:54 AM

Patty, putting aside the fact that you and I differ as to whether or not Dumbledore faked his (which I believe and you don't)---I alway do enjoy your comments. We do agree in the fact that Harry unfortunately find it hard, if not impossible, to trust Snape and realize that he is an ally.

I envision the scene unfolding like this---at the final battle with Harry and Voldemort, Snape turns on Voldemort. He may even need to make the ultimate sacrifice. Harry then FINALLY realize that Snape was truly good. By then, Snape may be , and Harry only be able to look back on all the clues he missed (as we do as well).

Posted by Heather from NJ on March 3, 2007 8:52 PM

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