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Character changes in Goblet of Fire
by David Haber
In the Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire movie, there is a scene in the Gryffindor common room, where Harry is lamenting that they still don't have dates, the Patil sisters walk by, and in unison they say, "Hi, Harry!" But wait! What is Padma Patil doing in the Gryffindor common room?!
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Yes i agree that was annoying when I saw this, and at first I though it was lavender Brown there with Parvati, because the Patil twins are IDENTICAL. Just like the WEASLEYS
Posted by sonya from Australia on January 7, 2007 03:40 AM
The people making the movie got it wrong (i know, Gasp! Someone actually made a mistake!)
Or Parvati told Padma the password and let her in. Dumbledore said people shouldn't go into other common rooms, he didn't say it was impossible. Harry and Ron got into the Slytherian one with the polyjuice potion, not so they could get in, but so they could trick Malfoy. If they had the password they could have walked in but i don't think they would be very welcome...
Sirius Black didn't get in the first time not because he wasn't a gryffindor student but because he didn't have the password. He got in the second time because he did have a password!
Posted by Cathy from Australia on January 12, 2007 01:15 AM
During the Alfonso/J.K. interview on the PoA dvd J.K. nixes Alfonso's idea of having a pipe organ in the great hall (muggle instrument... not used in Harry's world). Yet in GoF we have a generic "teen" movie sequence featuring the Weird Sisters playing conventional instruments. Overall the fourth film was very weak, (what little magic there was seemed to be forced), pandering to the pulp teen aunce.
Here's wishing the bar is raised back to the level of the first three films. PoA - 9.75/10, PS - 9.25/10, CoS - 9/10
Posted by Roland from Victoria, B.C. on January 13, 2007 10:54 PM
Roland, look closer. They did attempt to make the Weird Sisters' instruments strange. The guitars have extra necks. There is no electric sound system. Except for the bagpipes, which I think would be at home in any Wizard band...
Posted by Dave Haber from Los Angeles, CA on January 13, 2007 11:00 PM
While being curious how I could of missed seeing the bagpipes the Weird Sister's used, I watched again GoF.
I should have known better - It is also clear to me that the Harry Potter movies are not only made for us HP fanatics, but also for the occasional movie-goer! But honestly, even if I watch it a hundred times, I still can't get over it how the director missed noticing, that Wormtail while cutting of his hand, didn't even cry...sorry, but he chopped of his hand...!
Then he keeps calling the Dark Lord, "Lord Voldemort" as if he, the coward would have had so much courage! Even Snape giving Harry Occlumency-lessons, almost freaked out when Harry repeatedly calls him Voldemort.
Okay, this is maybe being fussy on my part, but is it not Hagrid, who explains in the first movie, how afraid everyone was/is to say Lord Voldemort's name? It looses also the charm for calling him "He who must not be named, or You-know-who"...
Another scene with Moody alias Barty Crouch Jr. doesn't make sense. When the false Moody meets Crouch Sen. after the second Task, he calls him and says: "The last boy who went into the Departement of Ministry never came out"? Who was he talking about?
When Harry goes off to see Dumbledore in his office, he can go past the stone-phoenix without using any password! For that matter, we see Professor McGonagall say "Sherbet lemon" in CoS (I checked that;-) and now Harry would be able to enter without a password?
After Barty Crouch Jr. admits who he is, under the influence of Veritaserum, he shows them his DARK MARK and one gets the impression the cut on Harry's arm is also the Dark Mark. Then Snape has to watch over Crouch Jr. until they can "send" him to Azkaban, who were missing a prisoner! When in truth McGonagall had to stand guard and Minister Fudge brought his dementor who happened to give Barty "The kiss".
My sister had until GoF came out, not read the books and thought Snape was only an especially tiresome teacher. Never would she of suspected that there was more to him! Like her, many have a big surprise once the "Half-Blood Prince" movie comes out!
Posted by Mistral from Switzerland on January 15, 2007 11:37 AM
i heard in a podcast that JK rowling said she didn't speak with the director, they had no contact (or just little contact) and in her site she posted no word about the 4th movie, she gave no opinion.
maybe she wasn't consulted as in the other movies, or maybe she wasn't heard... perhaps that's why this 4th movie was so different. In my opinion, they didn't change the book, they ignored it.
Posted by Rajel from buenos aires, argentina on January 19, 2007 1:58 PM
You are making a big deal out of nothing. There are tons of possibilities for why Padma may have been in the common room. Though the director didn't pay attention to this detail the movie is still awesome. I love the movies and the books.
Posted by Samantha Hom from Brooklyn,NY on January 19, 2007 2:09 PM
I have three things to say about this glitch. One, does it really matter? Maybe because they are sisters, they made an exception and let them into each other's common rooms. And the director does have "poetic license" to make minor changes from the book to make the movie work better if it doesn't affect the outcome of events in the movie or the whole Harry Potter book series. Two, maybe the director just thought it would run more smoothly if they had them in the same house for the movie for the purpose that since they go with Harry and Ron to the Yule Ball, that it might not have worked out so well if they had been in different houses. Three, I didn't even notice the glitch, and I don't think many other people noticed the glitch either, so it's not like it was a hugely devastating mistake, just one to make the movie run more smoothly.
Posted by CS from Prince George, British Columbia on January 19, 2007 9:16 PM
I have to vote for the "big deal out of nothing" ticket represented by Samantha from Brooklyn (post January 19th) and others, however everyone is entitled to voice their opinion.
It's a given that no adaptation for the screen is likely to be able to be completely faithful to the original book, so the fans who obviously have such a deep knowledge of and love for the books might do well to consider that no-one is FORCING them to go and see the movies as well. If you've lived and breathed the books, then maybe better to stay out of the cinema if you're likely to find the differences upsetting or distracting?
Moving on, Mistral's comment (January 15th) that "the Harry Potter movies are not only made for us HP fanatics, but also for the occasional movie-goer!" prompts me to wonder whether there is any data available on what proportion of people who have seen the movies have also read the books?
Not being a full-on fanatic, my experience in the world in which I move is that the proportion of HP movie-goers who have also been HP book-readers is relatively small. It's highly probable that a movie stringently designed to meet the demanding standards of the really knowledgeable book fans wouldn't be a viable commercial proposition.
Posted by Elder Lupus from Leicester, U.K. on January 21, 2007 8:45 PM
Okay, so I agree that it was wrong to have the sisters together in the same situation, allowing the aunce to assume something is refuted in the novels; however, I also agree with the fact that it doesn't disrupt the movie enough in the eyes of the readers of the novels to dislike it wholly. The movies do though, make a lot less of the books, only because if they were totally with the books, then they would be forever long.
My one concern though about the movie from the book, was that Dobby was originally the one who gave Harry the gillyweed according to the book, and yes Neville did have the book that gave the answer, but Neville was the the one who did it, and I didn't care from the fact that it was changed. I make this comment only because I was one of the people to watch the movies before reading the novels and now that I am totally enthralled by the books and can't wait for the second one, I'm eager to find out what be changed or rather tweaked for cinematic reasons?
I still love the books and the movies. Cheers to all!
Posted by Fate from USA on January 25, 2007 11:43 AM
I think you are totally right about this! when I saw the movie, I was a little confused cause she isn't suppose to be there!
Another mistake in the trailer of OotP movie 5, they are going to the ministery on BROOMSTICKS! while I was soooo curious about the weird horses! so anoying...
I hope they put the part in when Tonks an Mad-eye and Lupin and the rest "saves" Harry out of his house, while the Dursleys are gone. I loved that part!
Posted by Hermione Fan from Curacao on January 25, 2007 4:14 PM
I read on another site that they do have the thestrals for the ministry trip. It said that the snipit with them on broomsticks was when they were, in fact, rescuing Harry from Privet Drive.
So if that's true, your curiosity still be allowed to linger.
Posted by Fate from USA on January 26, 2007 08:43 AM
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