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Character changes in Goblet of Fire

by David Haber

In the Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire movie, there is a scene in the Gryffindor common room, where Harry is lamenting that they still don't have dates, the Patil sisters walk by, and in unison they say, "Hi, Harry!" But wait! What is Padma Patil doing in the Gryffindor common room?!

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Dave - The source of the confusion lies both in the movie saying he was a Seeker and in Order of the Phoenix where he is playing with the Snitch. I'm not sure it actually says it in the books, but waaaaay back - October 2000, actually, Jo mentioned in an interview with Scholastic to clarify:

"Question: What position did James play on the Gryffindor Quidditch team? Was it seeker like Harry, or something different?
J.K. Rowling responds: James was Chaser."

She said this even though she was already in the planning stages (at least) of Order of the Phoenix and likely would have long ago worked out that little detail about Harry's father. Fans have speculated that while scoring goals may have given James more glory and more opportunity to show off on the pitch, playing with the Snitch was much more impressive than playing with the Quaffle (and harder to spot that he'd nicked it.)

For what Sirius said:

"...except when I came to watch the Quidditch, of course. You fly as well as your father did, Harry...." (PA, p372, US version)

He never actually mentions James' position, just that he flew well. Good flying ss and lightning-quick reflexes are not exclusive to Seekers, after all.

Posted by monkeeshrines from orlando fl on October 28, 2007 06:01 AM

i think they took out lavender and put padma in for money reasons, they cut so much out but know its going to be funny as everyone they have removed they have to put back in, like now they have put lavender in the HBP. im hoping dobby be in this one with kreacher, as i'd love to see the fight when they both want to follow malfoy. and no way they can take dobby out in the last movie, and everyone who is in the book has a part at the end with the big fight. i heard percy may not be in the 6th film but of course he has to be in the last one. the other thing i missed about all the films is peeves.

Posted by Anonymous on December 18, 2007 2:10 PM

I know! Where is Peeves? He would have made OotP movie a lot cheerier.

Posted by C.J. from Utah on December 28, 2007 11:27 PM

i'm n0t sure of this but...

wasn't it LAVANDER BROWN who was with Parvati? and not Padma.?

Posted by dunah from calbayog on January 1, 2008 05:40 AM

Peeves might of been hard to charcterize in the movies.But I think it would be awesome to have Peeves in the movies. Here comes Peevesie, here come Peevesie. down the hall down the hall. Chasing nasty Umbridge, chasing nasty Umbridge, make her fall,make her fall!

Posted by Katy Edison from Alaska on January 4, 2008 09:33 AM

I think the most annoying discrepancy in GoF is that Ludo Bagman doesn't even exist in the film version, and he is crucial to the whole plotline! Then, when Harry finds Barty Crouch Sr. unconscious on the forest floor, he runs back to the castle to tell Dumbledore but is sidetracked by his experience with the pensieve and they never even MENTION Crouch after that until Barty Jr. admits to ing his own father (while he is still posing as Mad-Eye). These little things drive me batty!

Posted by Holly Ennist Stewart from West Milford, New Jersey on January 15, 2008 7:14 PM

dunah- no, it was Parvati and Padma. They're supposed to be identical twins and they look really similar when they walk past, plus there are pictures of the gorl who play Lavender in the sixth movie and she looks nothing like Padma.

Posted by Keelin from California on January 19, 2008 5:48 PM

Yea she shouldn't be in there, but there is nothing on the books that suggest other students aren't allowed into each others houses. Yes they have passwords, but perhaps that is to keep other students from getting into houses uninvited. If you can remember how the students acted during quiditch, what would they do to each other if they could get into each others houses? Remember how Harry was worried for his Firebolt in PoA? Although I don't really know why, unless he was worried that someone would get the passwords, which does happen later on when Sirius breaks in. But I would imagine that if a student invited a friend form a different house in, it wouldn't be a big deal.

Posted by katie cole from US on February 10, 2008 4:11 PM


In Harry Potter 2 Hermione says: "It must of been a gryfinndor, no one else knows our password" If we accept this it clearly states: NO STUDENTS FROM OTHER HOUSES ARE ALOUD IN OTHER COMMON ROOMS OR DOMOTORIES. It also gives evidence in Harry Potter 7 Prof. Mcgonagoll says: But Why Would Potter Try to get in this common room? Potter is in MY house!" We must also take this into account.

Anyway, i noticed that apparently threre is supposedly on 5 ghosts: Moning Murtle, Nearly-Headless Nick, Grey Lady, Fat Friar and Bloody Baron, there is also evidence, in Harry Poter 5, Harry says: "But why isn't this place FULL of ghosts?" Nick answered "I cannot say". This points to that there are only 5 ghosts But in "Harry Potter and the Philosiphers stone" There are supposedly 20 (movie).

Also, about Padma, The movies allways twink the story a little bit to save time.

Posted by Callum from SOME WHERE IN AUSTRALIA on April 15, 2008 6:17 PM

I havent seen the movie so i dont know what happens on the movie but i know that they were in seperate houses in the book

Posted by Johnny from ? on April 20, 2008 11:16 AM

Callum, I disagree, i don't think Hermione saying "It must have been a Gryffindor, no one else knows the password" means no one's allowed in the common room if the aren't in that house. Surely it means it was a Gryffindor because no one else knows the password.

Posted by Lucy on April 30, 2008 11:14 AM

I did notice that the twin was in the wrong house! But, if the twins were really close don't you think they would want to hang out together?

Posted by lyd on June 16, 2008 4:36 PM

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